Monday, September 28, 2009

L&D Q&A with Dr. H

Warning: this is a LONG one, but I know at least one person who’s interested! Plus I need the documentation. :)

I had my monthly prenatal appointment this morning. One more and I go to every two weeks, ZOINKS!

Stats:

B/P: 124/76 What the heck? I didnt bother having them re-check it this time. Its bogus, I think the nurse is just screwing it up.

Weight: 172

Babys heart rate: 142

When Dr. H came in, he comes over to me and points at the chart and goes I have to check, did this really happen?? According to my chart my LAST weight was 163. I said no, I am pretty sure that should say 168. According to my own calculations Ive only gained 4 lbs since last time. He said well that is good, youve only gained about 14 lbs this whole pregnancy and 9 of it in the last 4 weeks is not good.

One of our goals for today was to get some questions answered about labor and delivery & how that’s going to go, especially considering our hopes to do it naturally. So here is a very paraphrased version of that conversation as I remember it. My doctor talks A LOT, so I’ve tried to boil down his main points and I am absolutely not quoting him word for word. I’m probably going to make him sound like kind of a jerk, but I promise he’s not. It’s really just my spin on what he said. We were actually laughing a lot during this conversation.

Me: If we want to have as natural a childbirth as possible, are we in the right place? When you research natural childbirth basically most of the advice out there is to stay away from hospitals and OB/GYNs and get a midwife and a home birth or birth center birth. Since we’re comfy in the hospital and with you as our doctor, we’d like to know your approach to L&D and natural childbirth in general.

Dr. H: In general, I do feel that labor and delivery these days is over-medicinized. Most of our patients here are healthy and under normal circumstances there shouldn’t be any problems with wanting to have an unmedicated birth. However, I find that a lot of people who want to do natural childbirth hear these fuzzy stories about easy labor and having this beautiful baby handed to them at the end with all sunshine and rainbows. Then their labor starts and they find out those people lied. Labor is hard and things don’t always go as planned. Those breathing techniques are very difficult and draining. It’s fine to do that for a few hours but once you’ve done it for 12 or 14 hours you’re going to be really exhausted. Another thing I see is these people who come in with a birth plan that is 3 pages long single spaced – that say things like “I will do this” and “I won’t do this” and “under no circumstances…” – these ones you can almost predict they are going to end up with a section because they are just so uptight and rigid that their labor doesn’t progress. I would just recommend going to the classes, understanding all your options, and having a plan in mind but also above all be open minded and flexible.

Me: So on the flip side of that, if I have to be flexible… then how flexible are you and the hospital in terms of the rules and time limits you set on a woman in labor? Are there hard and fast policies that state that once you’ve gone X number of hours you’re going to start pressuring women to get Pitocin going or have a C section?

Dr. H: It all depends. There have been a lot of people who have done a lot of research and plotted exactly what a “normal” labor should look like. But those are all averages and I tend to feel that when you look at the “norm” there’s usually a standard deviation of +/- 2 in every situation. Usually once your membranes rupture (water breaks) we like to have that baby within 24 hours because the longer you go the more risk there is for infection. As for Pitocin, again, it just depends on the timing and how things are progressing. If your water breaks at 4am and things aren’t moving along then we might be recommending Pitocin at noon. (I got a little confused on this part … he offered another timing scenario up but I can’t remember exactly how it went. But what it came down to is that once you start the Pitocin you might still have 8 or 10 hours of contractions to go before the baby is born and they want you to have some energy left for pushing at the end) As for “how you’re progressing” again, we like to see that you’re dilating at a certain rate, but it’s not set in stone. For example, if we expect you to go from a 4 to an 8 in X amount of time, and you’ve only gone from 4 to 6… well that’s not great but at least you’re going somewhere, so in that case it would be less likely we’d try to speed things up.

Me: Well I’m glad that’s how you feel, but what about these guys? (picture me gesturing to the wall where there are pictures of all the doctors in the practice) It looks to me like I’ve only got a 1 in 6 chance that you’ll even be there.

Dr. H: I think you’ll find that we all pretty much agree. And historically, there’s about a 60% chance that you’ll have me on the day.

Eric: What about the cutting, how often do you do that (and picture Eric making a little scissor motion with his hand, SO CUTE!)?

Me: How often do you do episiotomies?

Dr. H: About 20% - In fact I probably do fewer than I should. Often times I’ll look back and think, hmm, I really should have done one.

Me: What about an IV, is that standard?

Dr. H: Yes, absolutely, that is my one non-negotiable.

Eric: Can we just get the IV prepped but not actually hooked up?

Dr. H: Yes, that is fine but you should know that well hydrated labor is usually faster labor.

Eric/Me: What about fetal monitoring, what type is standard?

Dr. H: Usually right when you get to the hospital we’ll do continuous external monitoring for awhile. If you don’t want that on the whole time then as long as everything is going okay then we can move to periodic monitoring.

Me: So I’ll be able to move around if I want?

Dr. H: Yes, we encourage people to be as active as possible during labor. Unless of course you have an epidural. There’s this myth about a “walking” epidural, but really you can’t walk with an epidural.

Me: Well I really don’t want an epidural.

Eric: Who can we have in the room with us?

Dr. H: Anyone you want, although I’d recommend keeping it to just a few people. Laboring women can sometimes be, how should I say this, “cranky.” And you might think at first that you want 23 people in the room but then when the time comes you won’t want anyone around.

Me: Will I be in the same room the whole time?

Dr. H: Yes, you won’t move until after the baby is born. We tried to do the LD&P but people really didn’t like it. It’s better to have a change of scenery, and get out of the room where all that “stuff” happened. The labor rooms are really nice though, they have tubs (but we do not do underwater births). The women find that during labor the jacuzzis are REALLY helpful for relaxation. The beds are nice and they move up and down and into all kinds of positions, but they really arent any good for postpartem and recovery.

Me: What if I am planning to breastfeed, will the baby be with me the whole time?

Dr. H: Yes, as long as baby is doing okay, I like to put him on mom’s tummy right away. Of course he’ll be all gooey and slimy and gross, but you won’t care.

Eric: She’ll probably be all gooey and slimy and gross, too.

Me: Okay, what if my labor hasnt started, water hasnt broken at what point do you induce?

Dr. H: We usually do not induce until about 41 weeks, at least 40. It just depends on how big the baby is getting and how mom is doing. In my experience bad things start happening after 41 weeks. And womens feelings on induction change throughout the pregnancy. You ask someone at 24 weeks and they say absolutely not. 28 weeks they might consider it. At 34 weeks they say can we do it tomorrow?

Me: Well I think that is about it.

Dr. H: Again, try to be open minded and flexible. Know what you want ahead of time, and its probably a good idea to have it in writing so the nurses can read it and understand where youre coming from. But more than a page is probably too detailed, and dont feel like a failure if it doesnt go exactly how you planned it.

One other thing he said, but I cant remember when, was that he doesnt like people to eat during labor. He said were not super strict about it but generally your stomach just shuts down once labor starts because your whole body is focused on getting that baby out. And if you eat you just usually throw up anyway. Im not too concerned about that.

So my next appointment is October 29th with the Nurse Midwife! Yay! Kind of a fluke but Im glad. I might ask all these questions again and see what her take on it is.

6 comments:

McMahan family said...

I am literally giddy after reading this post. Like, I actually did a little dance while the page was loading for me to reply. Oh my gosh, you are great to ask so many questions. I want to comment on a few things.

Just tried to post my response and Blogger wouldn't let me. It was too long. Sorry. I emailed you what I wrote ... and let's talk on the phone about this soon!

Natalie said...
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Natalie said...

I got so excited reading this too. If nothing else I am going to be outside pacing in the waiting room for however long it takes. Other than work, this baby is the only thing I think about!!!

Mandamom said...

You guys really asked some great questions & got thorough answers. And Dr H being a talker,to me,is a big plus.I hate having to drag responses out of them.
Re: Your BP
Ask the doctor if he would mind taking it, if you think MA's reading isn't accurate. Recently, I asked my MD to take it (for the same reason) & sure enough, the MD got 15 pts lower.

buttakwup said...

Very cool. Sounds like we got a lot of the same answers. It certainly seems so far that perhaps the medical establishment aren't quite the villians they are made out to be. My Dr. said the exact same thing about the correlation between the length of birth plans and c-section rate.
I still haven't asked about episiotomies (for some reason I feel like that's going to offend her... like I'm insinuating that she's a butcher or something, plus my mom says they ARE necessary a lot of the time) or about tubs in the hospital. I'm scared about the answer to that one because I really want there to be one. My mom has mentioned more than once that tubs really seem to help women relax and things progress.
I called the hospital again today to try to figure out when we can go on a hospital tour and figured out the first time we can go is less than 2 weeks away from my due date! Yikes!! I'm hoping my mom will go on it for me and then fill me in.
The good news is that the REASON I can't make any of the other tours is that I found a Bradley instructor in Joshua Tree by pure providence. She's in the middle of the series of classes with 4 other couples and at first told me there was no way we could start in the middle, but I basically begged and assured her I've read the books and I'm doing the exercises and the nutrition and that I just really need a way to get my husband on board (because he won't read anything). And she felt so sorry for me I think that she agreed to let us do the last 6 classes. Woot!
Plus she's doing a special one on one with us to get us caught up to where the other couples are. I'm really nervous, but I'm really relieved too because there is a serious problem with planning a "husband-coached childbirth" when your husband has no idea what that even means.
Thanks, by the way. You're the reason I started getting educated a few months ago. You were the kick in the pants I needed.
I'm so nervous about the whole thing still. I really hope these classes help relieve some of my doubts. My mom is trying to be supportive, but I can tell she's very skeptical of the whole natural childbirth thing. She's seen it all and her silence often speaks volumes. I just keep telling everyone, "I know! I may not be able to do it." If I hear, "You just don't understand until you're there," again I may yell at someone. All I want is to feel like I prepared as much as possilbe so I never have to wonder than it could have been different. Ya know? Then, if it doesn't go the way I hope it goes, oh well. I will have done my best.
Ooooo, and I get my 4D ultrasound tomorrow! Yay!

Kimberly said...

Hi Amanda,
I hope you don't mind me reading/posting on your blog. I was intrigued when I saw your post title listed on Shauna's site. This is an issue that's really close to me since both of my girls were birthed "naturally."
The most important advice is YOU CAN DO IT! Our bodies are amazing and were built to grow, birth and nurture babies...mostly without any help or intervention. The more you listen to your body and let it do it's job the better the outcome will be (l&d, nursing, even parenting!).
My first was born at a hospital (still naturally) and it was a terrible experience. Our second was at a birth center and it was wonderful!!! Not saying that you can't have a good hospital delivery. There is just a huge difference between the general outlook and support system telling you that "you can do it" vs. "we'll let you try for x amount of time without intervention."
Basically, if there is any way that I can help I'd love to. Natural births are not "easy" but no births are. They are however incredible and so great for mom and baby (as long as you're having a "normal" pregnancy).
Good job with your list of questions- keep asking them!!!
-Kim Myron